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		<title>Book Review: Getting The Most From Your Yellow Pages Advertising</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2007 13:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last year, I criticisedÂ a press release promoting a book by Barry Maher titled &#8220;Getting the Most from Your Yellow Pages Advertising, sayingÂ the press releaseÂ was self-serving and irresponsible. I disparaged Maher, referring to him as a &#8220;so-called expert&#8221; and calling the press release &#8220;self-serving&#8221;. Maher&#8217;s press release touted advertising in print yellow pages and questioned the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last year, I criticisedÂ a press release promoting a book by Barry Maher titled &#8220;Getting the Most from Your Yellow Pages Advertising, <a href="http://www.naturalsearchblog.com/archives/2006/11/17/so-called-expert-claims-internet-yellow-pages-overrated/" title="So-Called Expert Claims Internet Yellow Pages Overrated">sayingÂ the press releaseÂ was self-serving and irresponsible</a>. I disparaged Maher, referring to him as a &#8220;so-called expert&#8221; and calling the press release &#8220;self-serving&#8221;. Maher&#8217;s press release touted advertising in print yellow pages and questioned the value of advertising online in comparison, so I was highly critical of it since I believe there&#8217;s significant value in advertising online. At the time, I thought I was justified in my criticism, since I felt he was promoting his book at the expense of bad advice to small businesses.</p>
<p>However, others pointed out some irony in my criticism &#8212; after all, self-promotion is by nature supposed to be beneficial to one&#8217;s self, and it&#8217;s not at all unusual toÂ emphasize a bit of controversy to make press releases more interesting to readers. Further, Maher&#8217;s responses and comments to my blog posting were well-written, wonderfully mild, and professional &#8212; leaving me to wonder if I&#8217;d been unreasonable in my attack of the press release.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0978732103?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=necronomcom-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=0978732103"><img margin="4" border="0" align="right" src="http://www.naturalsearchblog.com/wp-content/YPadvertising.jpg" alt="Getting the Most from Your Yellow Pages Advertising" /></a><img border="0" width="1" src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=necronomcom-20&amp;l=as2&amp;o=1&amp;a=0978732103" height="1" style="margin: 0px; border: medium none" />So, I bought the book before Christmas from AmazonÂ and have now finished reading it. I find that I agree with Maher&#8217;s book farÂ more often than not, and I feel I should now apologize for my attack. While I believe in the value of online advertising and still will defend its viability, Maher&#8217;s book doesn&#8217;t attack it in an unqualified manner, and my attack on the man versus his ideas or statements was unjustified and just low. I prefer debating ideas in a logical manner, and I can&#8217;t understand why I also stooped to attacking the person in my post. I&#8217;m sorry about that, Barry!</p>
<p>As for the book itself, I found it to be very valuable for small businesses, particularly newbies who&#8217;ve never done yellow pages advertising before. Even the business owner who thinks they already know it all ought to read this and check some of their assumptions. Read on for aÂ further review of the book.</p>
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<p>The book does a really great job of briefly outlining the history of yellow pages directories, and segues nicely into describing how yellow pages ads work. Most people may not realize it, but a yellow pages ad is an instrument &#8212; it&#8217;s a machine for educating a user about your business, and persuading them to come to you instead of going to your competition. Fine-tune the ad correctly and you increase your customer base and profits. Slap the ad together in a haphazard manner and you&#8217;ll needlessly waste money and lose out to the competition.</p>
<p>For a great many businesses, the yellow pages was and is the first doorway through which customers arrive. Many small businesses are skeptical of the worth of various types of advertising, but for many types of outfits (like plumbers, contractors, auto repair shops, etc) the yellow pages ad is a life-or-death necessity. Nearly every year, there are newspaper stories from around the US about how some entireÂ category of businesses or individual companies have accidentally been dropped from appearing in that year&#8217;s edition of their core yellow pages directory &#8212; just read those stories or ask those business owners whether this negatively affected their business and they&#8217;ll tell you that it had a major impact.</p>
<p>Maher&#8217;s book, <strong><em>Getting the Most from Your Yellow Pages Advertising: Maximum Profits at Minimum Cost</em></strong>, provides a detailed education on all major aspects of advertising in the yellow pages.</p>
<p>The book has some great advice on how to choose what size of ad for your directory. Ad size and type are the two factors that play most heavily into the cost of YP ads.</p>
<p>It provides advice on how to handle your directory sales rep, and how to get them to assist you with choosing your ad by getting them to bring a few previous years of directories with them when they come to call.</p>
<p>The book further describes how to choose in which directoriesÂ for your area to advertise, and how to design your ad to function best for you. Where should your ad appear on a page? What copy and visuals should appear in the ad? What text is vital for seducing a potential customer to choose you?</p>
<p>This information is the classic grand-daddy of search optimization! &#8220;Local Search&#8221; was originally when consumers picked up a yellow pages hardcopy book, began thumbing through it to find a business that would fulfill their need, and then selected one from the listings. Optimal ads will attract more attention, and convert into more customers.</p>
<p>Some other surprising stuff foundÂ in the book:</p>
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<li>Bigger ads are not always better nor worthwhile for ROI;<br />
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<li>Using directory ads of competitors to gauge what might work for you;<br />
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<li>How to spy on what works well or badlyÂ for your competitors;<br />
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<li>How to choose an ad which is nearly the same size as a larger, more expensive ad;</li>
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<p>So, what does the book actually say about advertising in online yellow pages or with local search?Â Maher says that online usage is growing while print is declining. He says that it&#8217;s worthwhile to have an online presence, and to make sure your listing info is correct with the major listing aggregators which power the data for online directories and local search engines. He says to get a good website and submit it to the search engines. He also says that one should advertise online if the numbers from the sales repÂ look good.</p>
<p>The basic message Maher has regarding online advertising and advertising in generalÂ is that small businesses should do what works, and reduce expenditures for stuff that doesn&#8217;t work. (I agree with this philosophy whole-heartedly.) He provides cautions and recommends conservatism about online advertising based upon research that indicates large numbers of consumers still use print, compared to numbers of consumers using online.</p>
<p>I still don&#8217;t like comparing online usage metrics with offline usage metrics, because the stats are each arrived at by very different means &#8212; comparing their separate numbers is a bit likeÂ comparing apples with oranges. I think most of his basis for hisÂ stance is correct, however. Print directories still have a large usership and will for some time longer. I may quibble some on the comparative numbers of users, but this isn&#8217;t Maher&#8217;s fault &#8212; I think he used some of the best stats available. Anecdotally I can agree to some extent &#8212; I can see loads of people in my city who don&#8217;t haveÂ ready access to the internet &#8212; travelors who don&#8217;t carry laptops, less-affluent people who don&#8217;t have computers or internet connections, consumers away from their homes without quickÂ internet access, etc.</p>
<p>I do think that travel-related businesses and businesses targeting the middle to affluent classes will enjoy greater success with online advertising than some other types of businesses, though, and they likely have already clued-in to understanding the need for online marketing. Maher doesn&#8217;t disagree &#8212; he basically justÂ says experiment with it, and use it if it works for you. Good advice for anyone, for any type of advertising.</p>
<p>He further says that the advice he gives in the bookÂ on ad design and ad copyÂ should also apply to online. And, he&#8217;s right &#8212; much of online optimization is based on the classic ad optimization techniques found in the legacyÂ print product.</p>
<p>I could wish that the book had a much larger section on how to optimize ads for local search and online directories, but it&#8217;s entirely valuable to small businessesÂ as-is. Perhaps Maher will expand out this section in a future edition.</p>
<p>I highly recommend this book as a guide to businesses considering how to optimize their yellow pages presence. The book contains priceless information on how to tune advertising to get more converting customers for a business. At less than a hundred bucks, it&#8217;s much cheaper than paying an ad agency&#8217;s rates!</p>
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		<title>So-called Expert Claims Internet Yellow Pages &#8220;Overrated&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[InÂ theÂ title of aÂ transparently self-serving press release, Barry Maher claims that &#8220;online yellow pages advertising (is) often overrated&#8221;. Maher says in the release, â€œIt may be the wave of the future, but the dull, old-fashioned, low-tech print directories are still the wave of the present. Businesses do need to be online. Just not at the expense [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>InÂ theÂ title of aÂ <a href="http://www.usprwire.com/Detailed/Advertising_Marketing/Online_Yellow_Pages_Advertising_Often_Overrated_Says_Top_Expert_4913.shtml">transparently self-serving press release</a>, Barry Maher claims that &#8220;online yellow pages advertising (is) often overrated&#8221;. Maher says in the release, â€œIt may be the wave of the future, but the dull, old-fashioned, low-tech print directories are still the wave of the present. Businesses do need to be online. Just not at the expense of whatâ€™s driving in the dollars today.&#8221;</p>
<p>He goes on to say that &#8220;For most local companies, thereâ€™s still far, far more potential business in the print directories than in anything they might do online.&#8221;</p>
<p>(Before I go further, I should disclose that I work for arguably the biggest combined print and online yellow pages company in the US. My comments on this matter are merely my own opinion, though, and not any sort of official stance from my company.)</p>
<p>It seems to me that the headline title of the PR was intended to be controversy-provoking in order to attract more attention than an announcement about the publication of a book on how to advertise in yellow pages would otherwiseÂ beÂ (yawn!). The intention was to promote Maher&#8217;s book on optimizing print YP ads, So, I really hesitated about rewarding this sort of thing with yet more attention than it merits. Yet, I believe that this claim is pretty irresponsible, so I&#8217;m going to address it. I don&#8217;t think that Maher can possibly understand IYP nor general internet advertising or he could not have said that &#8220;there&#8217;s&#8230; more potential business in the print directories&#8230; than&#8230; online&#8221; (paraphrased).</p>
<p>Read on and I&#8217;ll explain why I think this was not reasonable.</p>
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<p>Just on the face of it, internet ads and info are just keystrokes away from millions more consumers than the drastically more limited distribution of any printed books. So, there can be no question that there&#8217;s more <strong>potential business</strong> possible through IYP than Print YP.</p>
<p>The two media have disparate methods for tracking ad performance. But some IYP provide pay-for-performance ads which only have you paying when a user clicks through to your information or when a user phones you. If you figure up your average conversion rates &#8212; how much money do you make on average when someone contacts your business &#8212; then you can figure out how much you&#8217;ll be willing to pay for those referrals. A plumber might make an average of $50 gross per phone call let&#8217;s say just for the purposes of illustration, so he might be completely willing to pay quite a bit for each referral. With pay-for-performance, he can &#8220;buy&#8221; as much business as he wants without it ever really being a losing proposition.</p>
<p>As long as the acquisition cost is sufficiently outweighed by the associated income, how can anyone complain? With pay-for-performance, there are much better metrics for telling if the ad is effective enough, and one can adjust the campaign to fine-tune it by changing keyword targets, ad copy, and geographic targeting. With print, one has a single chance each year to get it right, and then you have to live with (and pay for) the ad until the next year.</p>
<p>With print YP, that same plumber typically will have to pay a fixed fee per year just to get impressions that are based off of distribution numbers, with fewer ways of assessing conversions derived from the ads. Sure, he could get a tracking phone number for the print ad for some directories, but one &#8220;secret&#8221; detail is that data aggregators collect data out of phonebooks across the US, and sell that data to online YPs. So, a tracking phone number may actually be sending calls toÂ the plumberÂ from more sources than just that particular printed book. In most cases, print advertisers are not using any sort of tracking to figure out where their referrals are coming from. So, they&#8217;re paying to be in printed books which people may or may not be using &#8212; most advertisers just won&#8217;t know for sure.</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;ve <a href="http://www.naturalsearchblog.com/archives/2006/05/17/print-yellow-pages-vs-online-yellow-pages-local-search/">mentioned before</a> that the printÂ yellow pagesÂ is not dead yet, and I believe that advertising in them still brings some veryÂ good exposure. But, I think that those of us who have ready internet access are using print directories less and less. Research analysts are predicting the decline of print YP within ten years, according to some for this very reason. While there&#8217;s still value in them, if usage is declining as many of us have cause to believe, then advertisers will have steadily declining exposure and referrals from them. If the trend is a geometric progression over ten years, it would be reasonable to reduce print spend by 10% each year, and increase online spend by the same amount.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s good research indicating that the internet user demographic is typically more affluent than consumers and households which have not adopted the internet. So, potential customers who are more likely to be able to buy a business&#8217;s products and services will be online.</p>
<p>Considering allÂ this, issuing a press release which would lead local businesses to be more hesitant about advertising in online YP is irresponsible. Just as with any other ad media,Â businesses need to carefully select advertising products that bring in more money than they cost. As long as you can tie your advertising costs to profit, I think the best approach is to cast your nets wide and advertise in as many distribution channels as possible in order to maximize exposure.</p>
<p>The press release refers to Barry Maher as &#8220;the expert TIME called, &#8216;the most widely respected consultant, speaker and writer&#8217; on Yellow Pages advertising&#8221;. It seems odd that I&#8217;ve worked in the YP industry for a decade and hadn&#8217;t heard of Maher before. So, I went over to Greg Sterling&#8217;s blog and <a href="http://gesterling.wordpress.com/2006/11/15/self-styled-expert-disses-iyp-pimps-self/">he said that he&#8217;d never heard of Maher</a>, either. Now, Sterling is a widely recognized expert in local media, so this is perhapsÂ pretty telling.</p>
<p>I see that Maher responded to Sterling&#8217;s criticism of the PR:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;Iâ€™m just saying that at this point 70 million references a month is dwarfed by 1.5 billion refences a month to the print product and small business people need to understand that.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;d be really great if Maher would mention sources forÂ the 1.5 billion referencesÂ data, particularly since I wasn&#8217;t aware that printed books have technology embedded in them in order to count when users look at them,Â similar to whatÂ we have for tracking usage of interet sites. Seriously, though, I believe IÂ can point out the logic failure in this reasoning. He&#8217;s likely comparing usage of all print directories, worldwide or nationwide, collectively with usage of all online yellow pages. Even if these two numbers, each counted/estimated in entirely different manners, were accurate, it&#8217;s not right to group usage together in this manner.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say that a major printed yellow pages directory forÂ the Greater Dallas Area is distributed to the tune of two million copies. The distribution/circulation numbers for that book are based on how many places the books were delivered to, but quite a lot of major metro areas have multiple books, so individuals are likely throwing one of the competing books in the trash. In other cases, households might keep the book, but if they have internet access or wireless phone applications, they may not be using the print books any more.</p>
<p>Online yellow pages are not limited to only local distribution. People all over the world use online yellow pages to plan for travelling to Dallas, whereas they do not have access to those local print directories. There&#8217;s also a lot of B2B stuff that&#8217;s now going on through the internet, too. Further, I suspect that his 1.5 billion references number is arrived at by counting total numbers of distributed print directories across the nation, then multiplying that by some estimated number of times that people look something up in the print books. That estimated number is likely based on random calling of a representative sample set of individuals in an area, and polling them to see how often they use their printed YP per month.</p>
<p>If I&#8217;m right and the sampling was done through calling a set of consumers in the area and asking them survey questions, I bet the sample set of users come primarily from people who still have landlines for their telephones. People with landlines still are listed in white pages, while most of those who have dropped their landline service in favor of wireless phones are not in the white pages. If aÂ researchÂ company randomly sampled people listed in local white pages directories as to their print YP usage habits, they&#8217;ll get a decided slant in favor of print usage. People who still have landlines are less likely to have internet connections in their homes, perhaps, because they may be slow adopters of new technology.</p>
<p>Regardless, the estimated numbers of print directory users per monthÂ are going to be arrived at through methods that are completely different from the numbers of users conducting online local searches, and comparing them as though you&#8217;re comparing apples with apples is not going to give a truly representative comparison for the purposes of basing business decisions. I think it&#8217;s likely that the print usage estimates will by nature have a far higher degree of error, compared with IYP usage, since online sites have better information for telling when someone looks at any given page.</p>
<p>Just for fun, let&#8217;s see whatÂ anotherÂ local media expert has to say about the subject. Dick Larkin is a yellow pages industry veteran, and Barry Maher himself apparently respects his word, if <a href="http://ypcommando.com/testimonials.html">Maher&#8217;s testimonial for Larkin</a> is any indication. In a <a href="http://ypcommando.blogspot.com/2006/11/lessons-from-real-numbers-of-local.html">recent blog entry</a>, Larkin writes:</p>
<blockquote><p><em>&#8220;&#8230;60% of local look-ups occur in the print world (for now). While the shift to Internet is dramatic, print is still viable in many markets. Don&#8217;t wait too long to advertise online, because all indications show local web search surpassing print as early as next year and being totally dominant in three short years. The lesson here is to advertise where you get results regardless of the medium. That may be common sense, but it sure ain&#8217;t common practice.&#8221;</em></p></blockquote>
<p>Now THAT sounds much more like fair, balanced advice!Â </p>
<p>Local businesses who are not participating in online advertising are likely losing out to their savvier competitors on business growth opportunities. Print still has a lot of juice left in it, but ignoring the online growth trend is not a good strategy for small businesses.</p>
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